Board tables graduation venue decision
by Kristal Dixon
kdixon@cherokeetribune.com
December 03, 2010 12:00 AM | 5575 views | 17 17 comments | 12 12 recommendations | email to a friend | print
The decision on whether to change the venue for Cherokee County high school graduations is on hold for a month.

The county school board on Thursday night unanimously delayed until its Jan. 20 meeting a vote on moving graduation ceremonies from First Baptist Woodstock.

The historic Canton High School school board auditorium was standing-room only as parents, students and concerned citizens filled the seats to hear the board debate the issue.

Since three recently elected school board members will be sworn in during the Jan. 20 meeting, the current school board said it would be better for the new lineup to have its say on changing the venue.

"They are going to be the ones who will have to deal with the long-term consequences," said outgoing school board member Stephen Bentley.

County Superintendent of Schools Dr. Frank Petruzielo added the school district would be in a better position legally if the new full board makes the decision.

The school district in October 2009 received a complaint from Americans United for Separation of Church and State criticizing the district's use of the church for its graduations.

The nonprofit, Washington, D.C.-based civic rights organization asked the school district to consider moving the ceremony to a secular venue.

School board attorney Tom Roach said the district for the past year has attempted a compromise with the organization, such as by agreeing to make disclaimers at the start of the ceremony. It's unlikely, he said, the church would consent to covering up crosses on display in the sanctuary.

The organization by letter last month rejected any compromise. No one from the organization addressed the board during the meeting.

"It's a difficult decision and a difficult task for the board," Roach said, adding the school district will most likely face a lawsuit if the board votes to continue using the church for its ceremonies.

Petruzielo agreed, noting if the board opts to stay with the church, "legal actions may occur."

In preparation for possible legal action, Petruzielo said, an alternate, back-up venue should be selected as a judge could issue a restraining order on the use of the church.

Moving the ceremonies from the church will affect the cost of the event, as well as how open attendance will be and how far students and their families have to travel.

The school district spends $2,000 each year to hold its ceremonies at the church, which seats between 5,000 and 6,000 people. It began using the church's auditorium during its 2004-05 school year.

Many of the county high school gyms, Roach said, have a seating capacity of between 2,000 and 3,000, and if used, would mean the number of guests allowed would be limited. Each graduating class has about 400 to 500 students.

The only area option for a larger venue than the church, he said, is the Verizon Wireless Amphitheatre, which would cost $70,000 to use.

The district also has looked at venues including the Northside Hospital-Cherokee Conference Center, Chattahoochee Technical College's North Metro campus, the Convocation Center at Kennesaw State University and Cobb Energy Performing Arts Centre (CEPAC), but all have less seating than the church and costlier price tags.

CEPAC, for example, has a seating capacity of 2,750 and would cost about $40,000, according to the school district.

Another problem is reserving the space. The school district can't confirm the availability of the amphitheatre until after January. The Convocation Center at KSU isn't available for use during the school district's planned 2011 graduation dates of May 27 and 28.

Four people addressed the board about the issue during the meeting.

Rabbi Jeffrey Feinstein encouraged the board to consider the rights of non-Christians.

While the United States is governed by the religious majority, he said, "it cannot be at the peril of the minority," he said.

Feinstein added the debate isn't about Christian versus non-Christians, but about what's "morally and ethically" correct.

Greg Mikszan of Woodstock, who has a daughter at Woodstock High School set to graduate in May, said the board shouldn't allow an outside group to "impose their will on us" and "intimidate us," which garnered thunderous applause from the audience.

Leslie Cushman of Hickory Flat, a member of the National PTA board of directors, said the use of the church has allowed her extended family to see the graduation of her children. Graduation would not be a "community-shared event" if it's moved to a smaller location, she said.

Michael Thompson of Canton said moving the graduation ceremonies would be a "heinous" act and asked the board to ward off any "strong-arm" attempts by an "elitist" group.

Also during the meeting, the board approved the 2011-2012 school boundaries. The redistricting was needed to make way for the new elementary school opening in August on Univeter Road east of Canton.

The boundaries for Holly Springs Elementary, Hickory Flat Elementary and Johnston Elementary were shifted for the new school. The change would affect 1,184 students and keeps the Harmony on the Lakes neighborhood intact and in the new school's boundary.

The board also approved naming the new elementary school as Indian Knoll Elementary School with firebirds as its mascot and blue, gold and green as the school colors.
Comments
(17)
Comments-icon Post a Comment
C Shull
|
December 08, 2010
Yes, J Knocke, I do suggest you become informed and fight back. But fight the right thing.

Firstly, you comment that their litigation targets Christianity. No, it doesn't. It targets violators of the separation of church and state. It just happens that Christians are the most prevalent violators in this country.

Secondly, you comment that no one in this county complained. Yes, someone in this county did. On a related note, the AU does NOT scour the country. They rely on members and nonmebers to report violations. It's on the homepage of their website that you apparently visited.

Thirdly, you claim that the issue would probably not have been raised were the ceremonies held in mosques or temples. If it were reported, it most certainly would have. In fact, I imagine that someone like yourself (with a clear persecution complex) would be the sort of person to report such a thing.

Fourthly, you are right. This group does not care about taxpayer cost. They care about the Constitution. Don't you remember learning about that? It still exists. It's still there. And it's still very important that we follow its rules and guidelines.

When I first read about the decision, I had expected the people of Cherokee County to react rationally and accept this as wrong. I mean, there is a "Come to Jesus" message broadcast by the pastor before the ceremony itself... But I should have remembered that people are hardly ever rational when religion enters the picture.
J. L.Smith
|
December 07, 2010
Just ask how many of our WW11 vets lost their lives for the jews and other groups.School BOARD hold your ground this country needs to wake up.
Cherokee Cnty Parent
|
December 07, 2010
It never seems to amaze me how shelfish many people are these days! Our schools are larger than when I was in school, so while the gym might have worked then it will not work now. Also, if you have it outside, what about weather? Think that through! Isn't this for the children? The folks that are complaining will be the first to complain when the kids can only invite their parents (2) to the graduation......they will also be the ones to break the rule! Grow UP!
J Knocke
|
December 06, 2010
check out this groups website: www.AU.org

They are a liberal activist group out of DC. Their litigation targets Christianity. There was no complaint from anyone in this county to the AU. The AU must scour the country looking for graduation ceremonies held in Christian Churches. I doubt this issue would have been raised by the AU if the graduation ceremonies were held in an Mosque or Temple. They do not care about the additional expense to taxpayers, inconvenience to Students, their families or burden to the elderly or Handicap. (also, per the BOE,the cost to hold the grad ceremonies at each school is more than the 2K the FBCW charges the county for ALL ceremonies at the church. ) Read up....become informed..and fight back!!! We cannot allow these groups to dictate what happens in our county, state or country!
Two Cents
|
December 06, 2010
We see religious symbols everywhere. Stickers on cars, programming on TV & jewelry people wear. Will you avoid a person because they "offend" you by wearing a symbol around their necks? I would hope not. Some people are WAY too sensitive. Graduation is a time to gather everyone who wishes to honor their child in a clean, sheltered, ample setting. Economy is also very important. AS A NON-CHRISTIAN, I am FINE with having the graduation at the church.
Concerned parent
|
December 06, 2010
To Canton Parent:

I have to disagree with you on your comment. If an Islamic Mosque that could hold the same amount of people were offered to the school board at the same price, I'm sure the offer would be graciously accepted. If you have been listening, it's NOT about it being a house of worship, but a place affordable enough for the county to hold the graduation ceremonies for all the high schools and allow the students to invite as many guests as they like and for all of them to be comfortable and not worry about being rained out, or over heated. Everyone who has had attended a graduation there in the past has said nothing but wonderful things about their experience. I'm not too sure about this, but the chances of the offer ever being made are probably very slim if none at all because I think you must be of Muslim faith to even go into a Mosque.
Canton Parent
|
December 04, 2010
You people would be would be standing right up with the Americans United for Separation of Church and State if they were having graduation at the "Woodstock Islamic Mosque".

Michael Terry
|
December 04, 2010
"If they don't like it, stay out of "our" county.

We don't care how you do it where you came from! lol"

What about those WITHIN "OUR" county that don't like it? Do those people not have a say simply because they are the minority? Religion seems to be the ONE subject that people are NOT allowed to speak out against, and it is even more evident in the "ultra conservative, God-fearing group who have banned together to kiss rationalization and reasoning goodbye."

Also, what happened to the days of graduating at the place where you spent those 4 years? I remember using the stadium, which worked perfectly and seemed to be the most 'traditional'.
Jack White
|
December 04, 2010
This group that wishes to file lawsuit with cherokee county should rethink of what they wish to do. On Friday November 12, 2004, it was stated that two islamic students in Duluth Ga., was given permission to leave from school on a friday to go worship as their religion calls for. Not a word said from no one about this, THIS MAKES ME WONDER AS TO WHY NOTHING WAS SAID??

If this group wishes to sue some one then go after the OIL Compaines for stealing from the AMERICAN PEOPLE. Lets ger real here up into the billions of dolars of profit just in the frist quarter of the year
mike wilson
|
December 03, 2010
This is pathetic!!! The last time I checked.....there were NO signs posted anywhere on the premises that said DO NOT ENTER UNLESS YOU ARE A CHRISTIAN!!! nor have I ever seen any that said you must be a southern babtist either. It would be a good idea though because thats what is wrong with this country now. America was founded on christian principals and the sooner we get back to them the better off we will be!!!!!!!!
Chris C.
|
December 03, 2010
This is ludicrous! Who do these people think they are? We use that facility because of the economical cost and the huge space. It allows our children to have anyone they want at their graduation, with virtually no limits! Besides the "church" is made up of the people who attend, not the building they meet in! It's JUST a building!! Let us use it and butt out!
Woodstock Parent
|
December 03, 2010
Simple solution for those who are offended by having graduation at First Baptist: Let's have a small second graduation ceremony for those few who are offended. It can be held at the High School. We graduated 3 kids in Cherokee county - 2 graduated at First Baptist and one on the school football field. The F.B. graduation was far better.
Kathy Brewer
|
December 03, 2010
Look it has nothing to do with church and state truthfully These students have worked for this diploma for a total of 13 years they deserve to have it a space big enough to have everyone they want there to see thier accomplishment
Sharinanopinion
|
December 03, 2010
This facility is a building with 4 walls and a ceiling. It only becomes a CHURCH when it's members and guests are gathered for a service or presentationo of a RELIGEOUS nature.
Barbara Holloway
|
December 03, 2010
Seriously you can call any place a religous building. Do we stop going to the theather because it has held worship there? I am about sick of the running scared politians that refuse to protect the values and rights of those who placed them there. It truly breaks my heart that you allow one or two, to change and discredit our values. It isn't a Christian against non Christian issue it is the idea that someone wants to remove what has been working for the better of those in the community. And they don't even live here? Please those who have the power "take your power" seriously and stand up to this form of Bullying.

George Anderson
|
December 03, 2010
Call me stupid, but I don't see how holding county school graduation ceremonies in a church auditorium in any way violates the constitution. Where does it say, "Public meetings shall not be conducted in buildings owned and operated by religious institutions"? Public assemblies have been held in houses of worship since the beginning of our republic!

A graduation ceremony is not the establishment of a religion, nor is it the preferential treatment of one religion over another.

"Americans United" are an ultra liberal, anti-God group who have banned together to kiss common sense goodbye.
bud willaims
|
December 03, 2010
Greg Mikszan for County school board!

Let's not let outside "elitists" dictate

how we live, work and play in Cherokee County.

If they don't like it, stay out of "our" county.

We don't care how you do it where you came from! lol
*We welcome your comments on the stories and issues of the day and seek to provide a forum for the community to voice opinions. All comments are subject to moderator approval before being made visible on the website but are not edited. The use of profanity, obscene and vulgar language, hate speech, and racial slurs is strictly prohibited. Advertisements, promotions, spam, and links to outside websites will also be rejected. Please read our terms of service for full guides